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HOW I GOT INTO SCIENTOLOGY AND WHY I GOT OUT -- ILLUSTRATED INTERVIEW WITH JASON BEGHE

And from what I observe from others, it is not native to that actual person.  As I said before, in my opinion -- and I'm no Dalai Lama -- I think that the best thing you can be is yourself. 

And if you can do that truthfully, it will be beautiful and successful and interesting.  I don't know about success, how you define it, but it will be a worthwhile time spent.  And what happens is you are sold -- and again, the trap is good, because you sell it to yourself. 

Because if you're not on course, you're wanting to be on course, and you should be on course.  You got your own self in jail.  It's an autopilot gig.  It's quite good.  I think there's some hypnotism in there or something.  I don't quite know.  But it's quite surprising. 

Like here's an example: you start the ethics technology.  So you start thinking, "Okay."  And you start thinking in terms of the conditions of existence that he laid out, and that these are behaviors.  And so now you're not just going, "You know, what the fuck? I think I need to take a walk. 

And I'm going to be an insurance salesman.  And that's my truth."  You have to go through these steps.  It's like retarded.  It's not true.  It's NOT true. 

And I did ethics cycles and conditions and nothing changed.  I've seen people who have done them, and they've changed, so I don't know.  Whatever.  But there's a placebo effect.  I don't quite know.

Tory, how many times did you do the PTSSP course?

]Tory] Like on and on and on.

Every time you go PTS, which is the human condition, you gotta do the course over.  Let me tell you something:  that's another racket.  PTS.

Q.  I'm not sure if we got PTS description on camera.

A.   It's Potential Trouble Source.  So all injury, accident and illness -- listen to those three words -- ALL, ALL! injury, accident, illness -- "Ow!" -- is all because of PTS. 

Everything!  Everything negative that happens is because of PTS.  Which means you are a "P" potential "T" trouble "S" source.  Wow!  That sounds weird.  A potential trouble source.  So in other words, not only did you just slip and split your lip, but you better get away from this guy, because if you're near him, you're going to split your lip too, and your business is going to fail.  He's a potential trouble source.  So you gotta take him out.  It's like you don't come to school with the flu.  This is like the spiritual flu.  So it's the heavy shit.

And there's only one reason that you're a potential trouble source -- one reason -- that you're connected to an SP, which is a suppressive person.  Now this is the 2-1/2% of awful people -- like Tory -- who are fucking it up for the rest of us good people. 

And oh, it's a funny thing. 

You know, as I zip around, my best friend, this is my best friend -- in 9th grade I met this guy.  This guy came to my school, and I saw this guy, and I was a gregarious kind of kid, and he was new, and I SAW him. 

And I said, "You know something?  You and I are going to be friends."  That's the first thing I ever said to him.  And I was right.  He's a big famous actor now, and an amazing guy: David Duchovny.  And David, my best friend -- I'm talking about a FRIEND -- our relationship was adversely affected by my being in Scientology.  He was very cool, but he wasn't into it.  He was happy for me.  He never gave me any fucking thing about it.  And I think his wife, I perceived that she was a little bit more like "hmmpph" -- like that. 

And they were right. 

And then everybody in Scientology -- not everybody -- that's a generalization.  I'll give you people:  Marty Rathbun, Susan Watson, Dave Petit, a couple of RTC Terminals people said, "Well, he's a 1.1 SP," in other words trying to destroy my relationship with him.  And it affected our relationship.  "1.1" is a definition of covertly hostile.  "Hey man, I'm your friend.  I really am, you fuck!"  That's covertly hostile.  Covertly hospital.  So one of the first things I did -- I mean, we'd stay in communication, but the further I got in -- Like that. 

And that's a loss.  Let alone my family. 

You know, my family, shit, they don't fuck with me.  But I've never been closer now that I'm out, because they weren't into it.  Everybody was totally respectful of me.  Nobody ever said -- my mother said one thing once, "I just don't think it allows for the grace of God."  That was all.  Because she's a big Christian.  Of course, I whipped out the Whiz book and gave her the right answer and handled it. 

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