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TAXI TO THE DARK SIDE -- ILLUSTRATED SCREENPLAY & SCREENCAP GALLERY

That is to say, the pressure to produce intelligence.

And the fact that they were saying "the gloves are off," created the environment in the field ...

that we later saw reflected in the photographs from Abu Ghraib.  And in my view, far more serious fashion than the photographs we saw, were 98 deaths of people in detention, which I understand now from my army colleagues is up to some 25 of which have been declared officially by the Army as homicides.

* since this interview, the number of deaths has risen to 105

* since this interview, 37 have been classified "homicides"

People say, "Well, these photographs from Abu Ghraib, they weren't real torture."  I look back at those people and say, "Murder is torture.  Murder is the ultimate torture."

In the case of Dilawar, he was subject to -- certainly -- cruel and unusual punishment, and ultimately, he was subject to torture because he died.

[General Dan McNeill, Commander of Coalition Forces, Afghanistan 2002-2003]  It's not our intent for people to die, especially when we're seeking to get information from them.

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